What happens in the wide gray space between financial therapy and life planning? In this rich, unscripted conversation, Rick explores that question with a next-generation leader who brings both heart and rigor to the future of financial planning. Together, they unpack the difference between “snorkeling” and “scuba diving” with clients, why deep listening and long pauses can be more transformative than advice, and how practitioners can responsibly navigate emotional territory without overstepping their role. Along the way, they touch on the power of George Kinder’s Three Questions, the limits of traditional CFP training, the growing influence of Internal Family Systems, and why doing your own inner work may be the most important professional development of all. It’s a candid look at where the profession is headed—and what it takes to truly put humans first.

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A podcast that blends the nuts and bolts of financial advice with the emotions that drive our money decisions.
Join Rick Kahler, CFP®, CFT™, as he blends practical financial wisdom with the emotional insights that shape our choices. Discover how financial therapy can help you make money decisions that truly align with your values..