Overview

In the first episode of 2026, Jason Williams sits down with Frank Patalano and Angel Williams for a wide ranging and honest conversation about the realities of investing, rising costs, and what it actually feels like to operate in today’s economy. From grocery store sticker shock to refinancing stress, personal health goals, travel plans, and long term strategy, this episode blends economics with lived experience. It’s a grounded discussion about cash flow versus equity, patience in investing, and setting intentional goals for the year ahead.

Topics Covered

• How everyday price increases reveal the real state of the economy

• Why feelings at the checkout line matter more than headlines

• Cash flow versus equity and why both matter at different stages

• Refinancing challenges and navigating lender conversations

• Liquidity stress and feast or famine cycles in real estate

• Setting realistic business and personal goals for 2026

• Travel, conferences, and building relationships in the industry

• The long timelines and hidden costs of development projects

• Balancing ambition with patience in a shifting market

Quotes

• “You can’t eat equity. You can feed yourself with cash flow, but equity only works if you can actually access it.”

• “If you don’t feel like you’re paying a fair price when you’re shopping, you probably aren’t, and that tells you more about the economy than any report.”

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