Spencer Sanderson sits down with Cole Crowson for a deep dive into the Oval Office meeting between President Donald Trump and New York Mayor-Elect Zohran Mamdani. Together they walk through what happened in the room, break down the most telling reporter questions, and look at how both men handled the public spotlight. Spencer and Cole also dig into the surprising ways these two seemingly opposite figures mirror each other in style, strategy, and influence.

“Church and State with Spencer Sanderson” is where scripture and society are both brought to the table. Spencer Sanderson explores the Bible and spiritual growth while also addressing politics, culture, and current events. Each episode offers practical wisdom for personal and professional life, encouraging listeners to stand firm in faith and stay sharp in today’s world.

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