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125: How to Price Your Products and Services for Real ROI — with Andee Hart (Part 2)

125: How to Price Your Products and Services for Real ROI — with Andee Hart (Part 2)

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You already know what you offer is worth it. So why does it feel so hard to actually charge that number?In Part 2 of this conversation, Jan sits back down with Andee Hart — sales strategist, wholesale business expert, and host of She Sells Differently — to tackle one of the most emotionally loaded topics in entrepreneurship: pricing. Not the spreadsheet version. The version where guilt, fear of rejection, people-pleasing, and a deep desire to serve all collide at the checkout page.Whether you sell physical products, coaching, courses, or creative services, this episode will challenge the way you've been calculating your prices — and give you a practical framework for backing into what you should actually be charging.In this episode you'll learn:Why women entrepreneurs consistently underprice themselves — and the caregiving instinct that's often behind itHow to shift from cost-based pricing to ROI-based pricing (and why it might raise your price by $1,000 or more)Why knowing your ideal client's transformation is the foundation of every pricing decisionThe real reason discounting hurts your business — and what to offer instead in a slower economyHow your brand visuals directly affect what price people are willing to pay (the $45 hat story is one you'll remember)What an ROI calculator is, why Andee uses one on her sales page, and how she built it using AI tools without codingHow people-pleasing and the need to control client outcomes can silently keep you underchargingAndee's top pricing tip: why your first price doesn't have to be your forever priceEpisode Highlights[00:00] Jan introduces Part 2 and frames the topic: pricing, guilt, and the fear of thinking too much of yourself[02:14] Why women struggle with pricing more than men — and Proverbs 31 as a biblical foundation for charging what you're worth[04:04] The pricing framework Andee uses with product makers: start with cost of goods, then layer in labor, time, and — most importantly — the buyer's ROI[05:55] Jan gets real: she knows she's underpricing her web design and branding services, and shares the mindset shift she's working through right now[07:10] The critical mistake entrepreneurs make in sales copy — leading with features instead of the transformation — and how to fix it[08:00] Andee's wholesale course example: how she built an ROI calculator into her sales page and why it became a game-changer for conversions[09:40] Why one client avatar isn't enough — and how going deeper into who you serve at each stage of the customer journey changes how you price[11:06] The $45 hat story: how one perfectly branded coffee shop in Franklin, Tennessee made Jan open her wallet immediately — and what that means for your pricing power[13:20] Product makers and packaging: why homemade-looking branding keeps wholesalers off retail shelves, and how branding does the selling when you're not in the room[14:13] The scary investment conversation — why stepping into a big God-given vision requires being brave enough to pay people who can get you there[15:38] Cost vs. worth: the mindset difference between what something costs you and what it's worth to your buyer[17:20] The people-pleasing pricing trap: Andee gets personal about wanting to control client outcomes — and how that tendency quietly caps her prices[18:07] Jan's honest confession about spending thousands on courses she didn't finish — and why the ROI is always on the student, not the creator[20:40] How Andee built her ROI calculator using Canva AI first, then vibe coding tools like Lovable and Base44 — no coding required[23:07] Jan's lightbulb moment: using an ROI calculator as a client-facing tool inside web design projects[25:16] Andee's best pricing tip: don't be afraid to pivot. Survey your clients, raise your rates, and stop treating your launch price as permanent[25:55] Instead of discounting in a tough economy — add payment plans. Don't devalue your work; just make it more accessible[26:51] "You don't want to be Dollar Tree." Why discounting trains your audience to expect discount pricing foreverKey Takeaway"When I am not charging what I'm worth, I am not able to use the gifts that the Lord has given me — because let's be real, it's all a gift from Him — to go do other things that make a kingdom impact." — Andee HartResources Mentioned🧮 ROI Calculator approach — Andee started in Canva AI, then moved to vibe coding tools like Lovable and Base44 to build full sales landing pages with built-in calculators (no coding experience required)📚 Jonathan Mast's AI landing page course — a low-cost course (~$20) that walks you through using a custom GPT to generate sales page prompts; includes a deliverable prompt you can drop into Lovable or Base44📖 Proverbs 31 — the Andee's go-to scripture for reframing pricing as an act of stewardship, not self-promotion🎙️ She Sells Differently — Andee Hart's podcast on counter-cultural sales strategy for female ...
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