104. How A Mother Turned Trauma Into A Movement For Dignity with Amy Van Zyl
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A mother loses her children for eight and a half months after a mental health crisis—then fights her way back and builds a movement from that pain. Amy shares how Her Circle grew from an empty room into a charity designed by women with lived experience, focused on recovery, research, and systems change that keep dignity at the centre.
We unpack complex motherhood: the overlapping pressures of poverty, domestic abuse, poor mental health, substance use, disability and criminal justice contact that push families to a breaking point. Amy challenges the myth that removal equals abuse, revealing how a lack of practical support can force “voluntary” care, how risk-averse assessments punish women for male violence, and why the system often confuses unmet needs with intentional harm. She explains how Her Circle restores ownership—through peer-led groups, arts, health and recovery work—and why anonymous access matters when honesty can be used against you.
Drawing on the Still a Mam and Listening Project studies, we explore six recurring themes: the need for trust, anxiety-aware assessments, real advocacy, and time frames that match recovery. We also get candid about resistance from institutions, the cost of speaking up, and the line between collaboration and complicity. The roadmap is practical and hopeful: move perpetrators, not babies; provide mother-and-baby options close to home; reduce procedural pressure to improve outcomes; and build local hubs that nurture long-term recovery.
To learn more about Amy’s work and the charity Her Circle, visit: https://www.hercirclene.co.uk
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Produced by Henry Chukwunyerenwa
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