My mom used to say that one of the great surprises of her life was that people are irrational. But as I've come to understand people, they start to become very rational.

That simple observation becomes the thread that runs through this entire conversation.

Steve sits down with marriage and family therapist Sharilyn Green to talk about the lessons life has taught them both, from raising children and navigating family struggles to learning how to listen with compassion instead of judgment.

Along the way they discuss:

• Why people make more sense than we often realize
• The power of asking better questions
• How validation is different from agreement
• What happens beneath anger and conflict
• Why families can be our greatest teachers
• The slow work of repairing relationships
• God's quiet hand in preparing us through life's hardest seasons
• The gift of becoming a safe person for others

One of the most moving moments comes when Steve shares a personal story about praying before a difficult lunch with one of his children, and how one simple question changed everything:

"What can I do for you?"

If you've ever wished you understood the people you love a little better, this conversation offers wisdom, hope, and practical ways to connect more deeply.

Reflection Journal

Every story has two stories.

The one you just heard... and the one it stirs in your own life.

If you'd like to spend a few minutes with that second story, we've created a Reflection Journal with prompts inspired by today's conversation. Reflection Journal here.

For more information about Sharilyn Green can be found here.