Steve Yegge is an industry veteran and the co-author of the recently published book Vibe Coding. Many of you will remember Steve’s rant about Google platforms that I linked in one of my ancient 0800-DEVOPS newsletters. That rant is now 14 years old, but people still talk about it.

We talked about vibe coding (the practice!) and Vibe Coding (the book!), whether junior developers are really doomed, the typical arguments people use against AI-assisted development, AI adoption in organizations, and what the future may bring.

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One of the smoking hot topics these days is AI-assisted development. How can we leverage tools and practices to improve the flow and make teams more effective?

My guest today is Michael Geatz, and he is dealing with this topic in the role of VP of Engineering. A couple of weeks ago, Michael stirred quite some interest with his LinkedIn post sharing his experience of moving the development team to AI-first development workflow. Soon after that post, I reached out to Michael and asked him to share more details with us, which he gladly accepted.

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In this episode, we talk about a phenomenon that is deeply ingrained in our world today, and that is complexity. And my perfect guest for this conversation is professor Scott Page from University of Michigan whose focus is on researching complex social systems and the potential of collective intelligence. Scott is a fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, and a recipient of a Guggenheim Fellowship. I was blown away by his lectures available under the name Understanding Complexity.

In May, Scott will be our guest and keynote speaker at our annual QED conference in Zadar in Croatia. This conversation today is just a glimpse of insights we will share at the conference so jump straight to the QED web page, register and join us to learn more about complexity and how to harness it in daily life.

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