What does it mean to be a joyful disciple as a grandpa? In this heartfelt and humorous episode, Rivers (aka Steve Harris) sits down with his longtime friend Brent Nielsen, a father of six, grandfather to 26, and world traveler with stories and wisdom to spare.

Brent shares how he and his wife Marcia have stayed deeply connected to their growing family — even while living halfway across the world. From weekly mission calls from New Zealand to car ride storytelling marathons, you'll hear powerful insights on intentional grandparenting, legacy, and faith.

They discuss:

• Building one-on-one relationships with 26 grandkids

• Grandparenting from abroad (and how Zoom became sacred ground)

• What he learned from family-centered cultures around the world

• How storytelling becomes a legacy

• Teaching faith through joy (and campfire songs)

• The advice he’d give his grandkids... and his own father

If you're looking for real connection, spiritual grounding, and a few good laughs — this one’s for you.

Episode Highlights:

• [00:34] Rivers’ call to action to record your life story — and why your grandkids want your corny jokes and rugged voice on video

• [01:26] Meet Brent Nielsen: Grandpa to 26, friend for 50 years, and servant-leader in global church service

• Why “joyful discipleship” is the ultimate goal for family life and faith

• Parenting and grandparenting while living in New Zealand and the Philippines

• Maintaining relationships with grandkids across continents — and how a simple Monday ritual made all the difference

• The surprising impact of storytelling on long road trips (and how grandkids remember every detail)

• Why funny + faithful is Brent’s grandfathering sweet spot — and how campfire songs play a starring role

• Advice for grandpas: Follow grandma’s lead, stay joyful, and stay present

• What to say to a worried teen granddaughter in a chaotic world

• The power of missionary letters, personal traditions, and being a fountain of peace for the rising generation

Key Takeaways:

• Grandfathers have unmatched influence through intentional connection

• Stories are your superpower — use them early and often

• Faith doesn’t have to be formal — let joy and fun lead the way

• Grandparenting is legacy-building in real time