This episode is part of our opening arc, “Between Signal & Synchronicity: The Art of Transmission”

In this episode, Chris Kaplan is joined by visual artist and tarot creator Nat Girsberger for a conversation on the wild aliveness of the desert, the art of presence, and the creative process of making the Radiant Wilds Tarot. Together, they explore the role of liminal spaces in art, the dance between shadow and light, and the intuitive journey of creation. Nat shares insights on collage, visual storytelling, astrology, and why embracing the unknown is essential for creative flow.

Highlights & Topics:

• The magic and aliveness of the desert landscape
• How desert experiences inspire presence, intuition, and art
• The origin story and creative process behind the Radiant Wilds Tarot
• Art as a portal to liminality and transformation
• Embracing the shadow in art and tarot practice
• Collage, visual storytelling, and the tactile side of making art
• Astrology, cycles, and their influence on creative flow
• The vulnerability and power of sharing art publicly
• The surge of tarot and esoteric creativity in contemporary culture
• Synchronistic timing, book and podcast recommendations, and more

Featured Quotes:

“Creativity is a perpetual dance between ease and strength, light and shadow. It’s not about keeping them apart, but letting them move together.”

“For me, making art is about capturing the liminal spaces—the places in between, the magic that isn’t obvious but is always there if you pay attention.”

“There’s so much alchemical gold within the shadow. For the light to blossom, it needs the wisdom of the roots, the work done in darkness.”

Timestamps (approximate):

00:00 – 01:30 — Intro & Welcome 01:30 – 06:00 — Catching Up, The Magic of the Desert 06:00 – 12:00 — Desert Experiences & Inspiration 12:00 – 18:00 — Creating the Radiant Wilds Tarot 18:00 – 25:00 — Art Process, Tarot Philosophy, and the Shadow 25:00 – 32:00 — Astrology, Cycles, and Creative Flow 32:00 – 37:00 — Artistic Process, Collage, and Visual Art 37:00 – 40:00 — Publishing, Sharing Art, and Tarot’s Popularity 40:00 – 41:55 — Wrap-Up, Where to Find Nat, Final Thoughts

Links & Resources:

• Nat Girsberger’s website: natgirsberger.com
• Radiant Wilds Tarot/Rockpool Publishing: rockpoolpublishing.com/en-us/products/radiant-wilds-tarot
• Instagram: @natgirsberger
• Chris’s site: fromyondershore.com
• Essays, newsletter, readings: fromyondershore.com/hermits-lantern/
• Instagram | YouTube: @fromyondershore