Can you scale an ABA company without losing your values… or your soul? 👀In this episode of The BC(BAes) Podcast, Jordan and Melina sit down with Javon May, CEO and Chief Clinical Officer of Autonomous Behavior Solutions in Los Angeles, for a real conversation about growing an ABA business the right way.The ABA field is expanding faster than ever. 🚀 But with growth comes hard questions:⚖️ How do you scale ethically?📈 How fast is too fast to grow?🧠 How do you protect staff from burnout while maintaining quality care?💼 And what responsibilities come with being the person at the top?Javon shares what it’s actually like running a clinician-led ABA organization — from making difficult ethical decisions, to turning down clients when necessary, to building systems that support sustainable growth.If you’re a BCBA, RBT, clinical director, or behavior analyst thinking about starting your own company, this episode pulls back the curtain on leadership in ABA.Because scaling a business is one thing…Scaling it without sacrificing your values is another.⏱️ Episode Timestamps00:00 – Meet the BC(BAes) & guest Javon May00:40 – Why a CEO should stay grounded in the clinical side01:30 – Wearing both CEO and Chief Clinical Officer hats03:40 – The ABA paradox: working yourself out of a job04:05 – What sustainable growth actually means in ABA05:00 – “More money, more problems” in business growth06:20 – Avoiding staff burnout while scaling an ABA company07:40 – Systems and SOPs that support growth08:05 – Small company vs large company leadership09:40 – Delegation and trusting your leadership team10:15 – The speedboat vs oil tanker analogy in business growth11:10 – When company growth naturally slows down13:10 – Ethical challenges CEOs face in ABA organizations14:20 – Balancing client needs vs staff protection15:45 – When you have to turn down a client16:40 – Protecting staff from disrespectful situations17:20 – Ethical decisions that aren’t in the BACB code18:30 – Tough leadership calls in ABA organizations19:50 – Advice for BCBAs thinking about starting a company21:00 – The reality of wearing every hat as an owner22:15 – Why being a great BCBA doesn’t automatically make you a great CEO23:40 – The responsibility of leading a team24:00 – The “no shield” feeling of business ownership25:45 – Staying motivated as a CEO in ABA26:50 – Why seeing client progress still fuels the mission27:40 – Measuring quality care in an ABA organization28:30 – Supporting staff while maintaining clinical excellence🧠 Topics We Cover✔️ Scaling an ABA company ethically✔️ Sustainable growth in the ABA field✔️ Preventing burnout for RBTs and BCBAs✔️ Leadership for clinician-owned organizations✔️ Ethics in business decisions✔️ Measuring quality ABA services✔️ Systems and procedures for growth📲 Follow The BC(BAes)Instagramhttps://instagram.com/thebcbaesTikTokhttps://tiktok.com/@thebcbaesYouTubehttps://youtube.com/@TheBCBAes🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.If you're in the ABA field, subscribe so you don’t miss conversations about the real life of behavior analysts — leadership, ethics, business, and the science that drives it all.🔎 Hashtags#BCBA #ABAtherapy #BehaviorAnalysis #ABAfield #BCBAlife #AutismSupport #ABAclinic #RBTlife #ABAethics #BCBAPodcast #TheBCBAes #BehaviorAnalyst