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Permission to Leave: Reading the Signs Before Burnout with Sally J. Clarke

Permission to Leave: Reading the Signs Before Burnout with Sally J. Clarke

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Staying isn’t always strength, and walking away isn’t always failure. Sally J. Clarke, co-author of Walk Away: Step Out to Step Up, joins Lori Adams-Brown to unpack why high-performing leaders so often wait for a crisis before giving themselves permission to leave. Why a role can look right on paper, title, compensation, trajectory, while quietly stopping to fit, and how to tell a structural misalignment from a personal failure The story behind the research: 40+ interviews with women across finance, technology, and the arts, including a founder underestimated in the boardroom who went on to build her own global company culture Why walking away is rarely emotional and almost always strategic, and what that reframe offers women taught that leaving means failing How culture, from Singapore to Germany to the United States, shapes whether leaving feels like a free choice or a forced one What recent comments from prominent tech leaders reveal about shifting corporate culture, and one question every leader can ask themselves this week Sally J. Clarke is an award-winning author and global business leader based in Singapore. She spent over a decade leading global marketing and communications at FIS and Markit, has advised organisations including Mitsubishi, Accenture, and the Singapore Stock Exchange, and is the co-author of Walk Away: Step Out to Step Up and author of the bestselling novel Ringside Gamble, winner of the 2025 Ink Prize for Best Debut Novel. 00:00 — Welcome and introduction to Sally J. Clarke 00:38 — The origin story: questioning whether “staying the course” is always right 02:01 — Why Walk Away exists: the conversation in Singapore that started it 03:35 — Beyond Lean In: how the conversation around women and ambition has shifted 04:35 — When a role looks right on paper but has stopped fitting 06:52 — Dr. Meena Kaushik: underestimated in the boardroom, she built her own company culture 09:12 — Embracing fear and the “learning and earning” mindset 11:44 — Permission, structural misalignment, and the personal-failure trap 12:37 — Alice Chen: a near-death wake-up call and leading with empathy 15:29 — Maternity leave, human limits, and humane leadership 17:15 — The scorecard method and a mentor’s advice on vision 19:16 — Why career growth isn’t a straight line 21:34 — How culture shapes the choice to leave 23:26 — The zebra and the lion: knowing who you’re trying to be 24:51 — Integrity as the cross-cultural constant 25:55 — Recent comments from tech leaders and the “choiceless choice” some women face 32:54 — One question to ask yourself this week 34:56 — The artist’s check-in: knowing what you want to say to the world 36:43 — Where to find Sally and her book Join us for an exclusive bonus with Sally on Patreon Website: https://sjclarkeauthor.com LinkedIn Book: Walk Away: Step Out to Step Up Novel: Ringside Gamble Subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode. Visit https://www.aworldofdifferencepodcast.com for more resources. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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