Big Tech sells your data. Vana lets you get paid instead.

In this episode of DealFlow: Founder Stories, Keira sits down with Art Abal, Managing Director of Vana, the Web3 data protocol putting people back in control of the data that powers AI.

This isn’t just another Web3 pitch it’,s a revolution in ownership. Art and the Vana team are building a system where users own, contribute, and profit from their data, powering AI ethically, transparently, and collectively.

🔍 Inside the episode:
💥 How Art went from law and government to leading in Web3 and AI
🔄 Why AI can’t be truly open or ethical without decentralization
⚙️ How Vana flips the data model, from extraction → collaboration → profit
🧠 Real-world use cases: AI models trained on Reddit, Spotify & robotics data
🌍 Lessons from government, Harvard, and a fasting retreat gone wrong
🥇 The mindset shift from control to contribution and how that powers the future

If you care about AI, privacy, and the creator economy, this is the insider playbook for the data revolution, where humans, not corporations, own the upside.

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👤 Art Abal — Managing Director, Vana
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🎙 Host
Keira Nesdale
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