What does it actually mean to change and why are we so fascinated (and suspicious) when people do? This week, Sarah sits down with Benoit Denizet-Lewis, acclaimed New York Times Magazine writer and author of You've Changed: The Promise and Price of Self-Transformation, to unpack the psychology, identity shifts, and messy reality of transformation. Drawing on deeply reported stories and personal insight, Benoit reveals why change is less about reinvention and more about self-discovery, and why it’s often more complicated (and communal) than we think.

Get the book here: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/youve-changed-benoit-denizet-lewis

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We're shifting gears this week, from therapy to something that I relate to personally. I recently watched the new Netflix doc about America's Next Top Model, and read up on the controversy and backlash that was caused when viewers listened to Tyra Banks' comments. Luckily, I'm in the fortunate position of having first hand experience with reality TV, and thought I'd share some insight and perspective. Enjoy.

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We're full steam ahead in this week's episode, Sarah is joined by Kamber Peerboom, founder of Loud Thoughts Therapy. We're learning about Internal Family Systems (IFS), Family BS, and how to navigate and identify generational trauma. We discuss common misconceptions that people have about therapists and therapy, and shed some light on how to overcome one of life's biggest and hurtful challenges, toxic family drama.

So if you struggle with family chaos, and life feels like it's getting on top of you, this would be a great place to start identifying a solution.

Go say hi to Kamber: https://www.loudthoughtstherapy.com/

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