On this episode of Making It Personal with Bishop William Joensen, Bishop Joensen and Jeanne Thill visit with leadership consultant, educator, and author Dr. Dan Ebener about the transformative power of servant leadership, emotional intelligence, and humble inquiry.

Drawing from decades of experience working with churches, nonprofits, businesses, and dioceses, Dr. Ebener explains why the best leaders listen first, cultivate vulnerability, and create environments where people feel heard and valued. The conversation explores diocesan strategic planning, Pope Francis’ call to synodality, leadership in the modern Church, and the growing need for authentic human connection in an age shaped by technology and AI.

Bishop Joensen and Dr. Ebener also reflect on:

• The importance of listening before leading
• How emotional intelligence shapes effective ministry
• Empathy, discipleship, and servant leadership
• The Diocese of Des Moines strategic visioning process
• Synodality and “conversations in the Spirit”
• Building trust and communion within the Church

Learn more about Dr. Dan Ebener and his work at:
https://www.danebener.com/

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