Larry Hagner—founder of The Dad Edge—and his 18-year-old son, Ethan, join for a conversation on manhood, mentorship, emotional resilience, and generational legacy. Ethan shares his experiences growing up under Larry’s guidance. Larry opens up about his own growth as a father, the power of surrounding yourself with the right community, and the importance of teaching sons to be both loving and strong. Together, they explore how young men can develop discernment, handle emotional pressure, and resist today’s culture of distraction and weakness.

Larry's Website: https://thedadedge.com/

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Timestamps:
13:24 - Defining masculine strength
18:41 - Core values vs. cultural noise
38:22 - Teaching discernment to teens
53:38 - Wrestling with validation and failure
1:07:04 - Prayer, self-doubt, and fatherly impact
1:21:11 - Choosing your circle
1:30:31 - Owning your emotional responses
1:38:19 - Reclaiming in-person connection
1:44:09 - Reflections on impact and fatherhood

Kenneth Eversole shares his journey from an ambitious college student with only $4,000 to working at Cloudflare, one of the internet’s most critical infrastructure companies. He reflects on the challenges of balancing ambition with patience, the importance of local action, and how young people can drive real change by engaging with their communities.

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02:14 - Growing up without a father figure
10:41 - The impact of fixing things & curiosity
19:12 - How to navigate ideological differences
25:04 - The origins of computer science & Alan Turing
33:01 - Launching a CubeSat club & raising $2M in funding
36:52 - Learning to lead a 150-person student program
41:50 - Post-college realities: joining Boeing & hating it
46:24 - The biggest lesson from working at a fast-growing company
50:52 - Handling trillions of internet requests per day
58:52 - What happens if Cloudflare shuts down?
1:00:51 - Choosing St. Louis over Silicon Valley
1:04:30 - What Kenneth excels at in any room
1:07:52 - How St. Louis is on the cusp of real change
1:14:39 - Understanding systemic issues & crime
1:16:46 - The #1 thing young people should focus on

Eddie McVey shares the origins of his dream with his late brother, Pat, and how their family values shaped the way they run their business. He opens up about loss, perseverance, and the drive to keep pushing forward even in the toughest times. From navigating financial struggles to expanding the Maggie O'Brien's brand, Eddie offers insights into business, resilience, and the ever-changing landscape of St. Louis. The episode also explores deeper themes of community, family legacy, and the importance of staying grounded.

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Timestamps:
1:39 - The tough first four years in business
3:12 - Buying Bombers and expanding the brand
7:15 - The impact of COVID-19 on expansion plans
9:50 - The unexpected opportunity to buy Maggie O’Brien’s
16:02 - Taking business risks and learning from them
23:41 - Growing up in a large family of 11 siblings
29:40 - The power of building local communities
32:12 - Eddie’s father’s gift for making people feel included
33:36 - Memories of Pat McVey's kindness and authenticity
41:16 - The deep impact of losing a sibling
46:01 - Learning to navigate grief and honoring Pat’s legacy
50:51 - Hard work vs. luck in business
54:48 - The challenges and future of St. Louis
57:38 - Why St. Louis needs better marketing and safety measures
01:00:52 - Advice for young people: The importance of common sense