Kari Selander came into this conversation with stories about consulting life, sustainability, motherhood, ambition, identity shifts, moving countries, burnout, reinvention, and the challenge of trying to hold everything together while still figuring yourself out.

In this episode of Roots, Routes & Real Talk, Kari joins Hewan and Serufusa for a very honest conversation about career pivots, parenting, trade-offs, and the many versions of ourselves we grow through over time.

Kari and Serufusa first met during their consulting days and stayed in touch through all the different chapters that followed, which made this episode feel more like an honest catch-up than a formal interview.

We talk about stepping off the gas pedal professionally after becoming a mother, questioning traditional ideas of success, sustainability, identity, and the pressure of trying to balance ambition with real life.

At one point, the conversation turns to DJs, music, and the people brave enough to completely reinvent themselves publicly, which somehow became the perfect example of what this whole episode is really about: having the courage to evolve, even when the path no longer looks linear.

If you’ve ever questioned your path, changed direction, tried to reinvent yourself, or wondered whether everyone else secretly also feels like they’re figuring things out as they go, this episode is for you.

If you loved this episode, you can find Kari on instagram: @mutha.life and make sure to listen to her podcast https://open.spotify.com/show/0RxtIzl1CBPrvxNkwARoxj