What if the problem isn't your mindset?

What if the real issue is the subconscious money story running underneath it?

In this episode of the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah Chapman and Lauren Ammon explore why the popular scarcity vs abundance conversation is far more nuanced than most coaches admit. They unpack the difference between mindset and what Lauren calls "bodyset," the subconscious patterns that shape our relationship with money, worthiness, safety, and receiving.

Together they discuss:

• Why affirmations often fail to create lasting change

• The role of subconscious money stories

• Human Design and open-center conditioning

• The bridge between scarcity and abundance

• Why sufficiency matters more than positivity

• Treating money as a relationship

• How childhood experiences shape financial behaviors

• The power of awareness and small shifts

• Real-life examples of money stories in action

• How entrepreneurs can begin creating healthier relationships with money

This episode is packed with practical insights, personal stories, Human Design wisdom, and powerful questions to help you uncover the patterns influencing your financial life.

If you've ever wondered why mindset work alone hasn't created the results you want, this conversation may provide the missing piece.

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Hannah Chapman, CFP®, APMA®, CRPC® | hannah.chapman@x2wealthplanning.com | x2wealthplanning.com